Comments on: Chopping AMD’s Fastest Desktop CPU in Half for Better Performance https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/ A Leader in PC Hardware Reviews and News Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:38:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Austin https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247983 Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:38:11 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247983 Yup, that’s one of the main reasons I went with a 14900k. I really liked the idea of the 7950X3D, but i was disappointed that the vcache was only on 8 of the 16 cores. I wondered if disabling the opposite CCD would work but I shouldn’t have to disable cores for it to operate as intended on a CPU that expensive. Also, I need more than 8 cores at times. So the 14900k was a great choice in my case. I love it.

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By: Brad https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247982 Sat, 24 Feb 2024 13:13:35 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247982 Nice article, leave it to AMD to do the oddball stuff. All the way back to the Athlon XP-Ms having unlocked multipliers, to the Athlox X2 550s having 2 cores disabled, to this.

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By: d0x360 https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247981 Sat, 24 Feb 2024 00:35:52 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247981 In reply to Kitkat5335.

7950x3d destroys the 7800x3d in all cases. I’ve yet to find a single game or program that can’t be made to run circles around a 7800x3d.

Hell the other day I was running a 720p to 4k ai enhanced upscale on some video while playing a game at a rock solid 4k120 lol. I used process lasso to lock the upscaler to ccd1 and the game to ccd0 (game was already but why not)… It’s genuinely impressive

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By: d0x360 https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247980 Sat, 24 Feb 2024 00:33:30 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247980 In reply to d0x360.

Hah! Ok so now my 7950x3d is bombing along at 5.4 CCD0 & 5.9CCD1.

DDR5 IS AT 6800mhz CL22-22-26-64 and riding that stability line like a champ considering the kit isn’t that great.

My 4090 is also stable at +310 core +1150 mem so it’s basically pegged at 3200mhz core anytime there is load and the max temp on it was 70c in the memory and that’s when my room was insanely hot from a 48 hour full load CPU/GPU stress test. Highest CPU temps were 67c with highest core temp at 58c!

I’ve passed the 20% performance gains I was originally after and I honestly don’t know how it’s stable lol

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By: Kitkat5335 https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247947 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:29:38 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247947 I remember trying to explain this to someone who wasn’t tech savvy and wanted the best the could buy in a build. Granted this was after the 7800x3d was out, but they just had to have the 7950x3d. Asked their intended use, which was gaming, and again suggested the 7800x3d. They weren’t having it, so just built it the way they wanted. About a month later they came back asking why I suggested the 7800x3d. Turned out certain expectations weren’t being met by the higher end chip mainly due to the differing ccd not optimally running games on the 3d cache ccd. Showed how to both disable and schedule task…he chose to disable the none 3d cache and eventually just got a 7800x3d.

7950x3d isn’t bad, but would certainly say it is better tailored to someone who has specific reasons of wanting it and willing to deal with fiddling with settings to get the most out of it.

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By: d0x360 https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247946 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 07:29:15 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247946 In reply to Bob.

Process Lasso will do the trick there. I set everything Windows is running to ccd1 and then I change games to ccd0 but you have to change both affinity and sets since some games ignore affinity and there are some that manage to ignore both but usually they are older and it’s not as important with them.

I’ve been overclocking my 7950x3d and I have the cores with 3d vcache running at 5.5ghz although I think I could push them further since my CPU temps after an hour under an all core load was only 56c. My “performance” cores are all overclocked to 5.8ghz and my infinity fabric is running at 3300mhz because my ddr5 is running at 6600mhz CL28-28-30-70 @ 1.437v. I think I can push it up to 7000mhz and remain stable but my 3rd attempt at better timing caused a stability issue and I used the 1usmus Hydra ram calculator to set the timings to “ideal” but my timings ended up being better.

Ill tweak them some more tomorrow, I’m absolutely positive I have headroom on the CPU and memory not to mention the GPU which is a MSI 4090 with +170 core +900 mem but I also have plenty of wiggle room there too and I think I can get away with +220 core without any kind of power mods and I’m not doing one of those with the garbage 12v power cable nVidia is using.

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By: Bob https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247927 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:22:11 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247927 If only there was a way to do this in the OS, so that you could choose which CCD you wanted active with a hotkey.

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By: Ty https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247821 Mon, 01 Jan 2024 06:17:17 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247821 Instead of turning off the 2nd ccd, change the frequency to target a lower clock then the 3D cores. Your performance will go up and you won’t loose any cores.

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By: HAYDEN https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247192 Sat, 09 Dec 2023 06:42:42 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247192 Idk how many people I’ve told to turn off their second ccd. Note to OP you can use a program like process lasso to just pick which cores you use within the OS. You can also designate on a per program basis, and just make sure ccd1 is set for your gaming stuff and ccd2 can be kept on for everything else, that way you suffer even less bloat by keeping 8 cores and 16 threads designated for background processes, streaming, overlays, recording, explorer.exe, bla bla bla

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By: Brent https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247127 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 19:51:57 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247127 This was a fun read, thank you, and do some more in the future.

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By: Ambrose https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247115 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 13:27:30 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247115 Holy s*** how much cocaine did you take before writing this?

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By: BigTed https://pcper.com/2023/12/downgrading-amds-fastest-desktop-cpu-for-better-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-247097 Wed, 06 Dec 2023 21:49:26 +0000 https://pcper.com/?p=280816#comment-247097 I got to the end of the article. Quite an achievement considering I’m also attempting to wriggle free of this damn straight jacket.

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